Please note, this is an AI transcript, edited as time allowed.

Kathy: [00:02:32] Hey, Becca and Adam, so happy to join you guys on zoom today. 

Bekah: [00:02:40] Hi. Hi, 

Kathy: [00:02:42] you look beautiful. 

Becca. 

Bekah: [00:02:44] Thank you 

Kathy: [00:02:44] for those that will learn shortly. Becca is an aesthetician and, um, I think the best in the world, but Adam and Becca Voglewede are my guests today. And, um, so let’s just start with where you are currently.

Um, where do you guys live? How long have you been married, and what kind of work do you do currently? 

Bekah: [00:03:08] Yeah. So we, um, live in Spring Branch, Texas, and that’s kind of in the Hill country. We love living out here. It’s so nice. We have, um, about three acres of property and we’ve been living here for three years ish.

Um, and we got married out here. So, um, we’ve been married for about three years, and. 

Kathy: [00:03:39] Oh gosh, I lost a year. I thought it was two years. 

Bekah: [00:03:44] That’s the right amount of years. time flies. 

Kathy: [00:03:49] So time flies when you’re having fun. Right. Exactly. And Adam, what do you do? 

Adam: [00:03:54] I’m an elementary school teacher in San Marcos, so, um, we each live equal distance away from our jobs, which is, it’s a decent drive, but it’s not too bad.

Yeah. Or that 

Kathy: [00:04:10] once you get out there. 

Adam: [00:04:11] I’ve been a teacher for 11 years. 

Kathy: [00:04:13] Okay. Alright. And what is it you teach? 

Adam: [00:04:16] I teach art to elementary school kids, kindergarten through fifth grade. 

Kathy: [00:04:21] Okay. And I happen to know a little bird maybe told me during one of my facials that, um, you’re not just a teacher. True.

Adam: [00:04:34] True. I also sculpt limestone in the Hill country, so taking 

Bekah: [00:04:41] rock 

Adam: [00:04:41] from the earth and sculpting it into beautiful things for people. 

Kathy: [00:04:47] Yeah. Do you have, do you have an online store or how do you sell your art? 

Adam: [00:04:53] I do. I do Vogart.org is where all of my. 

Kathy: [00:04:59] Uh, 

Adam: [00:04:59] sculptures are on 

display.

Kathy: [00:05:02] wonderful. I’m going to check 

that out.

Adam: [00:05:06] Please do. 

Kathy: [00:05:07] Perfect. Okay, so that’s kind of a snapshot of where you are, where you guys are now. Um, but let’s take a few steps back. What, what were your plans for work when you guys started dating and how long ago was it that you started dating? 

Bekah: [00:05:24] Um, well, we have been together for. 10 years. Um, and, uh, when we met, I was employed by the retreat salon and day spa.

And, um, Adam was working at his current school where he’s still at now. Um, I had no plans to be a self employed at that time. And, um, things just kind of developed. 

Kathy: [00:05:58] Okay, we’re gonna get into that more. But, um, 

so you were 

already teaching Adam, you were working. And was that 

Bekah: [00:06:08] because I could stop at his house on the way to new Braunfels and see him, um, you know, to, and from work.

So that helped our relationship as well. But, um, Adam is the reason why I am. I was encouraged to, to be self employed. He is kind of the person. Um, but that helped me lay more 

Kathy: [00:06:30] blame 

Bekah: [00:06:31] or thank. 

exactly. Exactly. Um, without his encouragement, I definitely wouldn’t be here today. 

Kathy: [00:06:36] That’s so interesting. So Adam, tell me a little bit more about, um, what, what prompted you to encourage her in that way?

What did you see that maybe she wasn’t seeing. 

Adam: [00:06:47] Well, I watched it from not really knowing anything about being an aesthetician really, or any knowledge of business. I just, she would drive through town 

Bekah: [00:07:02] from New Braunfels, 

Adam: [00:07:03] maybe come see me and then off to Austin and then back and forth and. You know, time was limited.

And there was, I think 

just throwing out an idea, 

like, why are we doing it like this? Why don’t you know? And I probably never thought anything of it, but leave it to a person with a little bit of a business mind. And she took it and ran with it. 

Kathy: [00:07:27] So. Interesting. And for those of you listening that time, distance is about, um, depending on traffic, but new Braunfels to Austin can be an hour or even more.

Adam: [00:07:41] Exactly. It was more out of. Just wanting to 

hang out with her more 

Kathy: [00:07:49] like 

Adam: [00:07:49] can we consolidate all of these clients somewhere 

Kathy: [00:07:53] that may 

be the most unique reason for starting a business. I’ve heard yet, but I love it.

Bekah: [00:08:02] Um, I am extremely, I’m Type A. I’m a very planned person. Um, my husband Adam is. The exact opposite. We are opposites everywhere. You know, throughout our relationship. I mean, you look at our relationship at anything that we do, we do opposite. Um, so it’s very interesting because. Adam is not a planner yet. Um, you know, this really unique, outrageous plan came from him.

Um, which, you know, of course triggered that personality trait in me, um, to move forward with that, that plan. Um, but it’s definitely a kind of a unique thing that Adam. And encouraged me to do that just because that’s not really in his personality trait necessarily. So, 

Kathy: [00:08:56] well, sometimes we can defy our own personality tendencies.

And one of the questions I wanted to ask you, we’ll just segue to this and we’ll come back to how you started the business. Um, but I’m curious if you guys have ever done personality assessments or. 

Bekah: [00:09:13] Um, no, actually I, I personally haven’t. Um, I have read the five love languages, but other than that, um, I have not done any personality assessments.

Kathy: [00:09:26] But you know enough about yourselves and each other to know that your, your tendency. So what are, what are some of the things that you are opposite in. Planning. You’re a planner. Bekah. 

Adam’s 

Adam: [00:09:42] not much of a planner. I like 

Bekah: [00:09:44] to go with the flow.

I mean, just as you know, like, okay, I really, I cannot go to bed with, um, with like a dirty kitchen, for instance. Um, and Adam is fine with that. Um, I. I really, I want to make sure all the dishes are done. And Adam, of course, doesn’t mind the dishes at all, but he cares so much about the laundry, which I care nothing about the laundry.

Um, so that’s kind of just an example. Also with our house where we live, um, I really care about everything that’s going on inside of our house, making it aesthetically pleasing and very comfortable. And Adam, of course. We’ll notice any twig out of place outside. Um, so those are just some examples. Um, but it’s really interesting because a lot of, uh, things we do, just the way that we think is.

Completely opposite. Agree on some things. But yeah, we disagree about some normal things, but things that actually in the end compliment our relationship. You know, it’s good that I feel so strongly about this and he feels so strongly about that because I can take care of that item and he takes care of the opposite items.

So really, um, we’re like two halves that make a whole. 

Kathy: [00:11:06] That’s a beautiful way to put it. And a very practical, so what one is strong in if the other one isn’t, so you’re not trying to make the other one like you, right. We all do that to some degree. At least I do. Or did or have in 40 years. 

Bekah: [00:11:24] Um, 

Kathy: [00:11:26] so the areas that are opposite where, where are you guys similar.

What are the touch points 

Bekah: [00:11:33] I’ll use are very similar. Um, you know what we care about most in life. I think those items fall in line together. Um, 

Adam: [00:11:46] both like the outdoors. We both are really into staying fit and working out and being 

Bekah: [00:11:53] active. Health, health minded for sure. I again, with nature, I feel like we both, um, I feel much better when we get time in nature.

Um, we get to breathe deeper, fresh oxygen. Um, we both enjoy, um, meditation, stretching, things like that. We both want children. We both wanted land. We both wanted a vegetable garden. Little things like that. We, the, I feel like all the important things. Um, we definitely. Naturally organically agreed on from the start.

Kathy: [00:12:32] Yeah. Yeah. So you guys are, uh, you’ve been together quite a while, so you have a good track record. Um, did you do any kind of premarital counseling or talk with other couples about, you know, communication? What are some things that we need to be talking about before we get married? Hmm. 

Bekah: [00:12:52] Well, for us, um, one thing that I tell a lot of people, you know, uh, when we got engaged, we both decided that we wanted to get married outside and probably at the house we live at because we wanted to enjoy those memories for years to come.

And, um, it was beyond hard to get married at our house. It took us. Easily six months to transform our property, um, and, and the inside of our house. And that was a real test of our relationship. And I often tell people, if you want to test out your relationship. Have a huge project that is hard to complete.

That takes months, not a week, not days, but months, because you will argue, um, and you will figure out how to work together and, you know, kind of team plan to come to this beautiful ending. And that, that definitely happened with us. Um, not only. For our wedding, but just as far as hiking, um, when we got engaged, Adam took me to the top of the mountain in Colorado and he, we didn’t bring enough food and it was very,

it was very challenging. And on that hike, you know, you, you’re. You’re aware of this cause you’re in Colorado, um, you know, when, when chaos. Yes. Yes. So each step, once we got closer to the top, one person was saying, I can’t do it. And the other person said, let’s keep going. And several times we almost did not make it to the top, but through our teamwork we have, we have made it through so many really, really hard things.

Kathy: [00:14:41] Oh my gosh. I love that analogy. And we’re going to come back to that in a little bit because, um, okay. The time in which we’re recording this, we know what is going on. Great. Well, let’s, um, let’s go back to Becca. So it was, sounds like it was more just, um, a matter of convenience and a way to see out of more, to, 

Bekah: [00:15:06] um.

Kathy: [00:15:07] Spend a little bit more time in New Braunfels and see clients there. So tell us where it went from there. 

Bekah: [00:15:15] Yeah, so, um, I worked the two jobs and I luckily had a job in which I could, um. Take more days off of my schedule. If you only wanted to work one or two days at the facility I was at in Austin, you could.

So as I got this year in New Braunfels, I took more days off of my, um, Austin schedule and eventually, um. I quit my job in Austin, and about that time, Adam and I decided that we wanted to move in together. Um, we were together for, I think about four years or three years before we moved in together. Um, which was really helpful for our relationship.

I think we both would agree with that. Um, just not rushing into things and giving some time for, um, something exciting in the future. Um. You know, if you rush into things often, I feel like you miss out on the excitement. So from from there, I, um, I moved to San Marcos with Adam and worked in new Braunfels and my business continue to evolve from there.

Kathy: [00:16:32] And at what point or how long ago did you completely go on your 

Bekah: [00:16:39] own? 2013 is when I made the transition. 

Kathy: [00:16:44] Okay. So it’s been about seven years. And is that the space? Um, I, I have been seeing Bekah for. Oh goodness. I don’t know. A couple of years. I wish I had found her years ago. I have learned, I’ve told her so many times she needs to clone herself because I’ve just learned so much.

I mean, she really is so passionate about what she does, and she’s a teacher and you know, she doesn’t just slap on a facial and send you on your way. She teaches you how to take care of your skin. And her passion is very evident. So is that the space where I. Um, yeah, 

Bekah: [00:17:22] yes. And that space I actually found, because I had a friend that owns that building and I asked her if I could just rent for one day a week.

And I went for one day a week to two days to three days to four days, and then I quit my job. And, um, I was in that space for. Seven years. Okay. 

Kathy: [00:17:42] Okay. And so the pattern we’re seeing is that, um, you are very intentional as you said, very. Um, did you use the word perfectionist 

Bekah: [00:17:52] or, or 

Kathy: [00:17:54] you may have said something different.

I don’t want to put 

words in your mouth, but you’re very, 

um, intentional and um, in other words, you’re not a big risk taker. And I think a lot of times when people think about starting a business, they think there has to be huge risk involved. Like, you know, no pain, no gain or something. But there are different types of entrepreneurs.

Right? And you’re definitely the type of, you know, small business person. You’ve been a solo person, but you also, so what was the decision point where you, um, you hired an assistant. When was that? 

Bekah: [00:18:36] So two years ago, ish. Um, I, uh, my books were a hundred percent full and I was starting to feel stagnant. Um, you know, often when you feel like you can’t grow anymore.

You feel stuck? Um, I definitely started feeling stuck and that at that point I had the decision between either staying where I’m at, being very comfortable, which is absolutely fine or growth. Um, and I don’t like to be stagnant as a human being. So, um, I definitely chose growth and, uh, I did hire my sister who is.

As close to a clone as you can possibly get. Um, and she was a wonderful addition to the business and has definitely paved the way for, um, more time for me to work on other parts of the business. Um, and our growth has been slow. A lot of business owners, I think do decide on a plan. They jump into that plan.

They hire employees. Um, that’s not how it worked with me. I. I loved what I did, and I think. A lot of the passion is what pushed me and organically caused the growth. I’m not a risk taker, but a lot of the things I have done have really pushed the limits for my personality with 

Kathy: [00:20:07] that. Okay. Yeah. I think, I just think it’s good for people to hear that entrepreneurs or people that start a small business or a solo practice of some kind, they don’t all look the same.

There are ways to do it without being a huge risk taker. Um, did you ever do a business plan. 

Bekah: [00:20:29] Absolutely. I’m actually in, I guess about three years ago, around the time I was starting to feel stagnant. I, uh, my father actually gave me a book. Um, the book is called E-Myth. 

Kathy: [00:20:42] Ugh. Such a good book. 

Bekah: [00:20:45] Absolutely.

That, that was my big turning point. I never thought growth was going to be something I could truly do, but the E-Myth. Showed me a route to take and it made complete sense to me. And, um, I actually not only read the book, but I got in E-Myth coach, which I would tell anybody is like a year of business class.

And I developed systems for every part of my business, which took some of the risk out. Of course, there’s always risk, but, um. It’s systemized. Every single part of my business, which I’m still using today. 

Kathy: [00:21:28] Awesome. And it is this, did you as a couple, discuss the business or the future of the business? Adam, did you continue to have input once you had this idea?

Adam: [00:21:40] I mean, a little bit. It’s something that we’ve worked at every single day. For years. So it is the topic of dinner discussion. It is something we chat about after I get off work. It’s, it’s, I, I did not have a huge part in the whole plan, but along the way. 

Bekah: [00:22:02] We 

Adam: [00:22:02] chat about everything, so I’m aware of everything going on and try to be as supportive as I can.

Bekah: [00:22:09] Yeah. Yeah. And 

Kathy: [00:22:11] I think it’s important, and couples have different tolerance levels for how much they talk about the business. Um, whether it’s one or both of you that, that have a business, um, and it’s great to talk about it. Uh, what, what do you find in the benefit of that Becca. Being able to talk through ideas or challenges with Adam.

Bekah: [00:22:33] Well, Adam is the peacemaker. He is the person that, um, basically normalizes a lot of my ideas that I have. He is, um, far more patient than I am, and he has a lot of those qualities that I actually don’t have. Like I was saying before, we are opposite. So I know anything that I may have a question about or an idea about, um.

I will put that through Adam first. Um, yeah. And Oh, absolutely. The Adam filter is, um, what I trust most in life with most things. Um, he is the most logical, sweet person I’ve ever met. I mean, he is, he’s definitely the person I can count on for. Um. Re a really good, um, really good feedback and, um, logical feedback for sure.

Um, so he may say that he’s not been a part about a lot of the things in the business, but, um, I would probably say Adam’s the foundation of the business. 

Kathy: [00:23:42] Has he ever given you advice that you didn’t agree with, 

Bekah: [00:23:46] of course.

again, we’re opposite. So if I have an idea, often I will present it to Adam and he looks at things from the other side, then I, maybe my brain doesn’t really work in that department as much. Um, so he, he looks at it in a different way and, um. It. It really brings me back down to a normal level sometimes, and sometimes it brings me up to a level that I need to be.

I’m not maybe feeling confident about something. Um, Adam can bring me to that confident place. 

Kathy: [00:24:27] And financially, do you guys, is your business separate from, you’re joined finances or how do you, and just only as. Specific as you want to be. I don’t mean to get too personal there, but 

Bekah: [00:24:43] yeah. Um, so I started my company, um, as a sole proprietor, and, uh.

I guess probably three or four years ago. Um, and keep in mind, I would consider this a family business. Um, of course my sister’s involved. Um, and Adam is the vice president of, of the company. 

Kathy: [00:25:07] Oh, well, congratulations. But did not know that Adam. 

Bekah: [00:25:11] And, and you know, I started my business as skin essentials in 2013 and rebranded.

Um, in 2019 to Vog skincare. Um, in relation to my last name, Voglewede. Um, so. At that point, we also decided to change from a sole proprietorship to, um, a S Corp and, um, that basically reorganized our, our business, um, you know, in lots of different ways. Um, and it creates an umbrella. And actually Adam does have kind of a small side business.

That he can tap into with some of his sculpture, um, as Vogue art. And then I’m Voke skincare. Um, and you know, our, our, as far as our finances go, everything is separate for sure. Um, and I worked really nice. It’s very organized that way, and I would recommend that for anybody. 

Kathy: [00:26:13] Okay. So you have your, your company finances, and then you pay yourself a salary and then y’all decide how you disperse that.

Yes. Um, so it, it has evolved slowly. And what I remember, and it’s been a little while since I’ve seen you because we’ve moved away, sadly, and I don’t know how to do virtual facials. I do keep 

Bekah: [00:26:35] ordering the product 

Kathy: [00:26:38] like a, now you rub 

Bekah: [00:26:39] under your 

Kathy: [00:26:42] eyes. 

But, um, what I remember is that for quite a while, you had been looking for, um, a building to purchase.

Tell me about that decision point and what prompted that. 

Bekah: [00:26:55] Yes. Um, so during that time of transition, when I was becoming more passionate about growth, instead of being stagnant, um, I then started the process of, um, of course saving money. Um, I come from a family where we are savers. Um, so I am very, very, very frugal.

Um, and nodding 

Kathy: [00:27:21] vehemently. 

Bekah: [00:27:23] Um, and um, you know, I’m kind of the type of person to, once I have a plan, I am, once I decide I’m going for it, it will happen no matter what the sacrifices. So at that transition time, I decided that I wanted, I wanted to move and. I was paying rent and I wanted to own, I wanted the investment.

I love new Braunfels, Texas. Um, you know, we’re German. It’s German there. We love Wurstfest. Um, we wanted, we wanted to definitely grow within the city. And so at that time I decided I wanted to expand and hopefully find a, uh, a building that fits in with, um, our unique culture at Vog skincare. 

Kathy: [00:28:11] And it took a while.

Bekah: [00:28:13] It did. It did. And I got one this year. Last year. Yeah. 

Kathy: [00:28:21] Oh, two years. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about that process of renovating. Did you have a lot of renovate? You bought an older house. 

Bekah: [00:28:30] The building was built in 1942, I believe. And um, we did, we looked for buildings for very long time. We saved money for very, very, very long time.

A lot of sacrifices for me during that time. And it was a 

Kathy: [00:28:46] sacrifice you both made, right? 

Bekah: [00:28:49] Absolutely. Yeah. And I, um, I’m definitely a bit of a workhorse. I, I worked many, many hours to save and, you know, to. To create space financially for this opportunity. Um, and Adam as well, because, you know, we share finances and there’s a lot of things that we didn’t purchase and we haven’t purchased, um, that people our age have.

And, um. We definitely worked really, really hard during that, that time to create space for that. But, um, during the time in which we found the building, it was very exciting. You know, it felt a lot like, um, the time when we were preparing for our wedding and getting our house ready for the wedding at her house.

It was, it was one of those times where, you know, I got real OCD about getting everything done. And. Um, we slept at that building every weekend, um, until it was ready. 

Kathy: [00:29:56] Wow. Wow. How long did it take you guys to renovate? 

Bekah: [00:30:00] Um, well, we, we only had a month. We only had a month. 

Kathy: [00:30:04] Oh my. 

Adam: [00:30:05] And she works all the way through, so 

Kathy: [00:30:08] not 

Adam: [00:30:08] much time.

Bekah: [00:30:09] It was after work, 

Adam: [00:30:11] nighttime before work. 

Kathy: [00:30:15] Yeah. 

Adam: [00:30:17] Did it, 

Kathy: [00:30:18] you did it. So when did you actually open in this new location? 

Bekah: [00:30:23] We opened November, I think six, the beginning of November of 2019. 

Kathy: [00:30:31] Yep. And you had a really, I was so sad to miss it, but you had what looked like a really fun grand opening. And then, um, for 

Bekah: [00:30:42] whatever.

Our 

Kathy: [00:30:44] listeners are listening to this. We’re recording this May 11th, 2020 also known as the time the world shut down. So your grand opening was when 

Bekah: [00:30:56] it was February 29th, 2020 a leap year. 

Kathy: [00:31:02] Oh, I didn’t realize that. I mean, I knew it was Leap Year, I didn’t realize that was the date of your grand opening.

Bekah: [00:31:08] The extra day of 2020 we spent celebrating. Our business. 

Kathy: [00:31:14] That’s so cool. And then tell us what has happened since 

Bekah: [00:31:19] then. Yeah. So we, um, closer doors March 18th to clients for safety reasons, um, which we were happy to do. So the safety of the community is always our top priority. And, um, we were out of work from that point until now, and we reopened May 18th, which is next Monday, a week from today.

Kathy: [00:31:47] Alright. So tell us a little bit about what that challenge has been like for the two of you. 

Bekah: [00:31:57] Um, well, uh, initially. For me personally, it was very scary. I, um, I don’t give myself a lot of, uh, extra free time. Um, so that alone is a little bit scary. Um, not knowing how long it was going to last. Who is going to get sick, you know.

Our parents, we want them to be healthy and safe. Um, but as far as the business goes, uh, I think it just being unsure of what was to come was really, really scary. Um, of course I live off commission, so, um, when people aren’t seeing me, I do not get paid. Um, so that is, that’s really scary and I don’t know how, how did you feel Adam.

I mean, 

Adam: [00:32:49] it was scary for, 

Bekah: [00:32:51] for me 

Adam: [00:32:51] to opening up a brand new location and then having this happen right at the beginning 

Kathy: [00:32:58] is stressful. Yeah. 

Adam: [00:33:00] But I think in this time off, you know, there was a little amazing things happening the whole time. It allowed us to take a step back and look at the business and then allowed her to.

Write up more 

Kathy: [00:33:19] things, 

Adam: [00:33:19] kind of like business plans and systems. And I 

mean, she, she worked all the way through it. 

Kathy: [00:33:26] So you used it productively, Becca. 

Bekah: [00:33:30] Yeah. And as a couple, I think, um, it’s given us more space to talk freely about how we want to move forward. Um, and life. Not only with the business, but with our small family and um, you know, things like that.

It’s, you know, sometimes the movement is so, so quick in life that this, this time, the space to to think is, is really valuable and was very valuable for both of us. 

Kathy: [00:34:04] Yeah. Mark and I’ve had some conversations about what are we going to keep doing. Stop doing or, or what did we stop doing that? Maybe, well, continue forward and, um, but keep doing, stop, start doing, stop doing.

How about you guys? What, what is something that you’ll keep doing? Possibly 

Adam: [00:34:28] one thing that we’ve gotten to do is spend more time at home and to kind of enjoy the evening time. 

Bekah: [00:34:38] She’s usually 

Adam: [00:34:38] still working in the evening, but we take a break and we try to go walk out in the backyard and walk down the, the route that we built in our backyard for the wedding and we kind of visit down, 

Bekah: [00:34:52] visit the 

Adam: [00:34:52] tree that we got married on, and we, 

Bekah: [00:34:58] we call it the vow tree that the walk the trail down is the exact same trail that we both walked down.

Um, the aisle too. So every night when we walked down that trail, it, it’s pretty special to us. And, you know, I, I feel like we kind of get to relive that moment, um, on a daily basis if we choose to do so. 

Kathy: [00:35:20] Yeah. Well, why don’t you guys come to Colorado and we can find a peak and you can

Yeah. Has there been a time, I mean, what you described when you were climbing that mountain peak, such again, just such a visual, um, where one thinks I just, I can’t go on anymore. And the other says, yes, we can have you guys hit a point, especially during this, um. You know, when we’ve all been at home and we’re all just grieving, really.

I listened to a great podcast by Brene Brown, um, on grief and kind of collective grief that we’re all experiencing. That’s another topic. It’s such a great picture of marriage that most of the time one of us is up when the other one is down, but there are times when we’re both down. Have you guys hit a point like that and how did you move through that if you did?

Bekah: [00:36:21] Yeah, I think through this, um. Self isolation. Um, we’ve gone through, we both separately and together have gone through waves of, I’ll call it discomfort. Um, not really knowing what exactly it is, but knowing that we don’t feel normal, and I definitely go through that. Um, as a female, my emotions are more wavy than Adam’s probably are, but, um.

I think that we’re really, really good at being transparent with each other and our communication and our relationship comes first. Um, and we don’t go very many hours without, um, talking and just, you know, just talking through things. Uh, that’s, that’s probably how we’ve gotten through most of our situations and our relationship.

Um. 

Adam: [00:37:18] When one of us is feeling down, we’re really good at noticing it. And she has taught me how to then talk about it, you know, cause you can. You can change it or you can make it better, or you can at least identify it and that makes it feel a little bit better. 

Kathy: [00:37:39] Right? Yeah. Yeah. One of the takeaways, I went back and listened to that podcast twice.

Um, it was with, um, David Kessler who wrote a book on the sixth stage of grief of finding meaning, and he talked about, you can’t, um, if you can’t name. What you feel. So you have to name it to feel it. If you can’t feel it, you can’t heal it. And I thought that was so good because I think what you described as things just don’t feel right, you know?

But there is some loss for everyone. Everyone you know, has some sort of something that they’ve lost on, on, whether it’s work or high school graduation, whatever it is. Um, were you guys able to, um, uh, apply for or receive any government assistance? Any of the loan plans that came out. 

Bekah: [00:38:37] So, um, with, uh, my lender that I’m very close with and, uh, my CPA, I’ve, I’ve been advised professionally, uh, quite a bit, which I highly recommend for anybody that’s looking for an area to spend a little extra money, spend it there.

I definitely applied for every single. Government assistance, I could. Um, and we really have not gotten much, but, um, I do believe that going forward we will have some assistance. Um. And yeah, even just applying for those items felt good for me, like I was trying. 

Kathy: [00:39:20] Right, right. Yeah. And a big benefit, I don’t know where you bank, but our bank is still in new Braunfels.

It used to be an independent bank, which are really, really hard to find anymore. But, um, this bank has been, um, bought by. You know, it’s now part of prosperity. Um, yeah. And they were just great. I mean, it was like real people you could talk to. Whereas our son, uh, was with chase and they were like. They, they really were pretty clueless what to do.

So don’t mean to bash on chase, but, but, uh, there were plenty of big banks that had the same story. But I think to your point, Becca, to have a good relationship with a banker and not just an entity. Great advice. 

Bekah: [00:40:11] What 

Kathy: [00:40:12] would you all say given this really tough time that you know for as careful as you are about planning?

Becca. Nobody could see this coming, right? 

Bekah: [00:40:25] Absolutely not. 

Kathy: [00:40:26] You’re right. So what would you say to a couple that came to you and, and they’re thinking about starting a business or buying a business. 

Bekah: [00:40:39] Patience, which I don’t have a lot of. Don’t, don’t rush it. Nothing good comes easy. Let your road, your roots grow.

You won’t see the success for maybe a year or two years, but that plant will grow. And once it grows, it will flourish. It will bloom and it will look beautiful and it will be you because you put all that blood, sweat and tears into that plant. Um, so patients is hugely important, but also. Have a plan. I mean, how on earth can you move forward without some sort of foundation, um, at all?

So I think what has saved us through this situation is patients, of course, drive of course. Um. But can 

Adam: [00:41:33] I add something to that? 

Bekah: [00:41:35] Um, 

Adam: [00:41:36] she is really, she loves what she does. She feels so strongly about helping people and teaching them about their skin. I think that really helps in this business because if she didn’t like what she did so much, it would be hard to do so many hours every day to devote your weekends and to devote.

So I think that is huge, that she just loves what she does and it shows in her effort. And. 

The amount she puts into it. 

Kathy: [00:42:12] Yeah. That, that is great. What somebody said, um, find what you love and you’ll never go to work a day in your life. 

Bekah: [00:42:20] So true. 

Kathy: [00:42:21] And yet it is a lot of work. And as you said, you know, blood, sweat and tears and, and so powerful, Adam, that you’ve, you have been so much a part of the team.

I very much get that picture that you guys are a team, even though Becca is doing the work. The bulk of it. Um, but yeah, the person, the other person on that team I think is very important. And you’ve given us a beautiful example of that. Tell us a little bit about, um, cause I’ve, I’ve always been impressed that you all just have a very sweet, um, loving partnership.

Just. Two best friends. Um, and I know that you’re very intentional about your relationship, but for our listeners, what are some things that you all do to maintain the fun, friendship and intimacy in your marriage? 

Bekah: [00:43:18] Well, one thing that, um, I value a lot in our relationship is how active we are together. Um, we work out together, um, as often as we can.

Um, a lot of the things we do, we do as a team, even if we’re not doing that item physically together, we have planned it together. Um, and kind of gotten to that point. I may not be executing fully. Together at that moment. But, um, we were, we both were just as much a part of the process. Um, which means we both are really passionate about that.

Um, but definitely we are, we are both very, very active together. We work out on a daily basis. Um, even if it means going out in the yard, um, I’m watering the plants, which is a lot of work when you have so many plants. Um, but I would say being active together, it’s. It working out and sweating and that that’s hard work.

And if you can look across the, the garage in our case and see the other person’s suffering the same way you are, and, and, and saying out loud, let’s keep going, then, um, you know, I feel like you can overcome a lot of things in life. Got you. Yeah. We do a lot of things together. 

Adam: [00:44:45] We cook together. Like even watering.

We water together, we, okay, I’m going to take these three plants. You take this, you go around the side of the house. You know, there’s, 

Bekah: [00:44:54] we 

Adam: [00:44:54] have a little plan and, and, and just like we tackled, you know, making a venue for a wedding in our backyard, we kind of tackle every little obstacle that we have. Like even.

Today. We had, you know, wake up at this time, you’re going to head here. I’m going to water the plants in the back of the shop. I mean, there was like, we had a little plan for it and we worked together really well. 

Bekah: [00:45:18] I truly believe, um, anything we have, most of the things we’ve accomplished, the only reason we’ve been able to accomplish them on the level we have is because we did it together.

There’s no way. On earth, I would have ever been able to get to the point where I am, uh, in the business without Adam involved. 

Kathy: [00:45:45] Kudos. Kudos to you guys both. So what is, what is the future of Vog skincare? Where do you go from here once you’re able to reopen and good. 

Bekah: [00:45:55] And again, so, uh, we actually hired, just hired, uh.

Our first, our second aesthetician and last week. And, uh, she starts next Wednesday with us. And you 

Kathy: [00:46:11] are going to clone 

Bekah: [00:46:13] yourself. I am working on the clone process currently. Fantastic. Yes. So we, um, you know, we definitely want to start a family and grow our Vogue family here at home. And, um. Through through that.

Um, you know, I definitely need some assistance and, um, I mean the future of a Vogue, I would love to, um, of course still focus on skin education within the new Braunfels community, but I would like to spread that, uh, education through the Hill country. I would like to eventually maybe open a second location in Blanco near our house.

And, um. It’s, it’s mostly about skin education. Skin cancer is the leading cancer in the United States, and we are all in the sun. We love vitamin, we love vitamin D, we love the rivers, but how are we all going to stay educated on how to take care of our skin properly? Um, going forward. 

Kathy: [00:47:13] Great. Anything to add to that, Adam?

Adam: [00:47:17] Just long for the ride. 

Bekah: [00:47:19] I mean, I’m excited about all of 

Kathy: [00:47:21] this stuff.

Adam: [00:47:26] I mean, I’ve learned to trust the ideas that sometimes are kinda sound crazy to me, but trust the process. And trust that it’s the right thing to do. And it has been. So I just trust it and hold on and I help as much as I possibly can and right. 

Kathy: [00:47:50] And that speaks 

a lot to your, again, the strength of your relationship.

You know, you, you, every step you take builds more trust. Right? And so the bigger steps become a little easier because you have so much history and good history together. Fantastic. Well, you guys have been awesome guests. Tell us, if anybody wants to reach either of you, um, what’s the best way to reach you?

And I’ll put it in the show notes. 

Bekah: [00:48:20] Um, they can reach us at Becca, Bekah@vogskincare.com. That’s Bekah@vogueskincare.com. 

Kathy: [00:48:34] Okay. And your art, which I’m going to go check out 

Adam: [00:48:44] Vogart.org way to find me. 

Kathy: [00:48:47] Great. Anything else? Any parting words or anything else you would like to share with our listeners before you guys get back out to watering your 

Bekah: [00:48:56] plants?

I think that, um, like I said, patience is a really important, um, I noticed in, uh, a lot of relationships through our friends that, um, very easily they will rush to the next step. And something that we’ve done in our relationship from the beginning is slow. Slow. What’s the rush in life you have? You have all this time to enjoy it.

So why rush to the next step? Because every step is another link in the growth chain. That’s very important. And without it, um, something may lack in the future. 

Kathy: [00:49:44] Wonderful. Well, we will end on that note and I want to thank you guys so much for joining me today. 

Thanks. Have a great time in the Hill country.

Adam: [00:49:56] Have a great time in the mountains. 

Kathy: [00:49:58] We are. We are.